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tperez330 · 01-19-2011 09:02 AM

Good question lime, I also thought you needed to really move before the real calories were burned... that's when your heart rate goes up and you run out of breath. Maybe that's different from the "cardio fitness" that Jade mentioned? Thanks for the answer Jade!

I'm going to try it tonight... will post how it goes tomorrow morning.

Glenn · 01-19-2011 09:22 AM

Hi Tony, sorry I've not posted here before, but I've been reading through your posts whenever I get a chance. I like how you're grading yourself here.. Quite a few A's I see! :clap:

tperez330 · 01-19-2011 10:48 PM

(01-19-2011 09:22 AM)Glenn Wrote: Hi Tony, sorry I've not posted here before, but I've been reading through your posts whenever I get a chance. I like how you're grading yourself here.. Quite a few A's I see!

appreciate it Glenn! I never liked getting poor grades in school, so I figured I'd leverage that to help myself stick to my action plan for this challenge. Seems to be working, but I think what has had a bigger impact is the accountability factor. Knowing that someone else could be reading my journal helps me think twice :sweatdrop:

before messing up!

and to have the encouragement and support from good people like yourself, Celes, Jade, xina, and others is... like the Mastercard commercial "Priceless!"

lime_inthecoconut · 01-19-2011 11:09 PM

Quote:Yes you would burn more calories PER HOUR/MINUTE but if you are running faster it will take you less time so you will be exercising for less time

ohhhh right, I thought you meant jogging vs running for the same amount of time. yeah I see what you mean. Although I never feel like I'm burning any calories when I walk, because I don't huff n puff

Tony, I know what you mean hey, it's kind of embarassing to report on messing up when everyone else is doing so great, so we try and have something better to write about

How was the work out?

tperez330 · 01-19-2011 11:25 PM

Day 19: Barefoot walking.... I'm in the same camp with xina and Glenn and have snow outside... will have to put this one off til spring!

(although xina I'm sure that Texas snow has long since melted!)

So yesterday was an A+. Sounds awfully generous huh? Here's why. I kept to my plan, under my calories limit and got a great workout in. Counting the calories I burned, I was over 900 calories under my limit for the day!

Jade suggested I change my workout, to take it "easy" instead of my "no pain, no gain" approach. So last night I took it easy... instead of trying to burn 400-500 calories in 30 minutes with intermittent run/walking on a treadmill with steep incline, I slowed down the pace, reduced the incline, and took my time. I started out by jogging until I started to feel uncomfortable... I made it 10 minutes, to almost 1 mile (the smaller incline really made the difference, I usually can't jog more than 1-2 minutes before I lose my breath!). Then I just walked/jogged however I felt comfortable. In 40 minutes, I traveled 3 miles and according to the machine, burned 580 calories! :dance:

The best part is I didn't feel the "pain." My discomfort level was a 7 (of 10) at the most vs. a 9 or more before. In about 10 extra minutes, I travelled more distance and burned more calories than my usual workout. When I started I set the treadmill for 60 minutes because I thought it would take double the normal time, so its very surprising that it only took 40 minutes. Thanks Jade for the advice!

I definately won't fear the workouts anymore... maybe even skip them less.

(01-19-2011 11:09 PM)lime_inthecoconut Wrote: Tony, I know what you mean hey, it's kind of embarassing to report on messing up when everyone else is doing so great, so we try and have something better to write about How was the work out?

lime the workout was very good... the details are in my Day 19 post. Overall you are right we can burn more by running faster... my problem was that I only wanted to run for 30 minutes or less, but I wanted to burn so many calories in that time (impatient I guess!) so I jacked up the incline and found I can turn up my heart rate to blazing quickly. I'd walk to catch my breath then do it again... very uncomfortable :bleah:

. If you ever watched "Biggest Loser" and seen the pain on the contestants faces, that's what I would do, but I was pushing too hard. Jade has shown that I don't need to kill myself... and it only cost me 10 minutes more! Time is precious, but the value of saving time is not worth the cost of "fearing the workout!"

Jade · 01-20-2011 05:14 AM

Tony said:

Quote:Jade suggested I change my workout, to take it "easy" instead of my "no pain, no gain" approach. So last night I took it easy... instead of trying to burn 400-500 calories in 30 minutes with intermittent run/walking on a treadmill with steep incline, I slowed down the pace, reduced the incline, and took my time. I started out by jogging until I started to feel uncomfortable... I made it 10 minutes, to almost 1 mile (the smaller incline really made the difference, I usually can't jog more than 1-2 minutes before I lose my breath!). Then I just walked/jogged however I felt comfortable. In 40 minutes, I traveled 3 miles and according to the machine, burned 580 calories! The best part is I didn't feel the "pain." My discomfort level was a 7 (of 10) at the most vs. a 9 or more before. In about 10 extra minutes, I travelled more distance and burned more calories than my usual workout. When I started I set the treadmill for 60 minutes because I thought it would take double the normal time, so its very surprising that it only took 40 minutes. Thanks Jade for the advice! I definately won't fear the workouts anymore... maybe even skip them less.

That's brilliant Tony!!! that's exactly what I was trying to encourage you to do

What's more, because this was not an unpleasant experience for you, you will probably do it more often (or make excuses not to do it less often

) and that way you will increase your fitness so it will start to feel easier too

Lime said:

Quote:ohhhh right, I thought you meant jogging vs running for the same amount of time. yeah I see what you mean. Although I never feel like I'm burning any calories when I walk, because I don't huff n puff

Ok I simplified the 100 calories per mile equation slightly - If you google this subject you will find that studies show that although fast walking and slow/medium running burn up pretty much the same 100 calories per mile as each other, there is evidence that slow very gentle walking burns less than this. Also strangely, very fast walking (power walking) burns MORE calories than normal running!
If you are interested there are some good articles here: http://walking.about.com/od/calorie1/a/c...alkrun.htm
and here http://www.thatsfit.com/2009/07/08/does-...-calories/
Different studies have different figues (depends on the weight of the runner too of course) but basically all studies agree that there is not that much difference between fast walking and running (any kind of running really) per MILE
As Tony was talking about a running workout I made the asumption that the walking would be at a good pace keeping the heart rate elevated and the lungs working - this run/walk workout is generally thought to be the best way to build up fitness and burn a good number of calories as Tony found

tperez330 · 01-20-2011 09:38 AM

(01-20-2011 05:14 AM)Jade Wrote: What's more, because this was not an unpleasant experience for you, you will probably do it more often (or make excuses not to do it less often ) and that way you will increase your fitness so it will start to feel easier too

Amen to that! Thanks again for suggesting it, you are an angel! :angel:

Had you not bothered I would still be out there trying to kill myself and detesting every minute of it. Considering I have a lot of weight to lose, I need to learn to love working out! And I agree it will eventually get easier, and I'll burn less calories... but I should be able to just run a little faster to maintain the same total calorie burn without increasing the pain.

tperez330 · 01-20-2011 09:26 PM

Day 20: Caffeine-free? I occassionally drink soda... lately on diet. I never had a problem with the caf. I have been drinking hot tea... at least 2-3 cups a day. I read somewhere that sipping hot tea throughout the day helps with hunger and with digestion. I can attest to the hunger part. I was able to fast for 2 days with tea. I think we have some decaf tea somewhere, I can drink that instead for a day.

Well another "A" for the day yesterday. Was able to get to the gym and run/walk again. This time I pushed a little more, so it was not as enjoyable as the first "easy" run. I went the first 2 miles jogging. I walked the next half-mile, and jogged until I hit 3 miles. The last push was the hardest, but still wasn't as bad as my old workouts. I finished the 3 miles at 37 minutes this time and 640 calories. I think I'll soon be able to jog the entire 3 miles. Now, my jog is very slow.. like 4.5 mi/hour slow. (to be continued... gotta run!)

The point I guess I was making is that I can see the transition from walking/running to just running (jogging) for the three miles. Never would have happened before since I had the incline maxed out... as I get more fit, I'll probably need to jog a little faster until its a true run. By the time I work down to 10 minute miles or 30 mintes I should have lost the weight I wanted and transition into a "maintenance" phase where I won't have to work out so much (start focusing on weight-lifting). I shouldn't gain the weight back as long as my diet is in control... that's the plan at least!

Tomorrow is the last day, I'm looking forward to weighing in to see if I managed to lose another 2 lbs! At this point, the way I feel it doesn't matter. I feel good. I am not worried about the future. I read that a lot of us want/need a break from the challenges... I can see how the journaling and some tasks can be time-consuming... but we need to be careful that taking a break from the challenge isn't the same as taking a break from the healthy lifestyle habits that we've started. Those need to continue... I know I can push ahead in this healthier lifestyle (as long as I can find a blog to help keep me accountable!

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Matt · 01-21-2011 11:25 AM

Great job on the run, Tony. I think 4.5 mph is a great speed especially since your going "uphill". This is about the speed I ran for several months until just recently. I've been increasing the speed but I have actually never touched the incline settings on the gym treadmills. I might try it out though since reading your experience with it.

I a would agree with others that I need a bit of a break from the challenges. I have been hanging out at TPEF a lot since the beginning of December. The exercises are fun and enlightening, the people are wonderful, their stories are inspiring, but I think we may all need to unplug for a little bit. I hope the community doesn't completely evaporate though. I hope you Tony and everybody else comes back so we can discuss all our progress.

tperez330 · 01-21-2011 08:51 PM

(01-21-2011 11:25 AM)Matt Wrote: Great job on the run, Tony. I think 4.5 mph is a great speed especially since your going "uphill". This is about the speed I ran for several months until just recently. I've been increasing the speed but I have actually never touched the incline settings on the gym treadmills. I might try it out though since reading your experience with it.

I a would agree with others that I need a bit of a break from the challenges. I have been hanging out at TPEF a lot since the beginning of December. The exercises are fun and enlightening, the people are wonderful, their stories are inspiring, but I think we may all need to unplug for a little bit. I hope the community doesn't completely evaporate though. I hope you Tony and everybody else comes back so we can discuss all our progress.

Matt, yeah I have come way down on the incline. But not completely. The reason I llike to keep a slight incline is I'm afriad that when I try to run outside, where the terrain isn't perfectly flat, I won't be able to run as well, and get discouraged thinking I'm out of shape. This way I should always be able to at least run as well off the treadmill as on. I heard also that some lady in Alaska trained for a marathon on a treadmill and won! She definately had to train with some incline I'm sure.

It is the last day, and I think Celes mentioned she will close the forum? I definately hope to come back to discuss progress. I wouldn't mind continuing my journal, as someone suggested earlier in another journal. If not, I'm sure I'll be reading other forums and definately sign up for the April 30 day challenge. By then I hope to be at least 20 lbs lighter! Best of luck on your fast! Try sipping hot tea or water it helps ease hunger.

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Day 21 Day 21 Day 21 Day 21 Day 21 Day 21 Day 21 Day 21 Day 21
Finally here. But it seemed to go quick! In the beginning I hoped to learn to control my eating. I think, well I know I have. Was every day an "A"? No. But most were. At least 17 of the 21. That's 80%. Not too bad. Still room for improvement, but confident I can do it.

Yesterday another "A" since I stuck to the diet. Didn't workout but was well under calorie intake by over 500 calories! I am going to the gym this afternoon and will weigh in. I'm hoping for another 2 lb loss. I'll come back and share what I weigh later.... Update: yes another 2 lbs lost! Total of 6 lbs since the challenge started 3 weeks ago... hmmm... for some reason I don't feel like celebrating... While I'm happy about the 6, I still have another 54 lbs to my goal weight! Humbling feeling. But I'm still encouraged... I feel I have what it takes and I'm determined to make it happen! No turning back, no excuses.

I don't know what will happen in the next few days after we close the forums. Hopefully there will be somewhere to continue our journals. If not, I'm sure I'll be seeing you in other forums and hopefully in the next challenges to come! Thank you for all of your support and encouragement which has meant so much! Thanks Celes for taking the time to create the challenge and TPEF! Thanks Jade for your continued advice and support! Thanks Xina, Lime, Matt, Glenn and Shannon also for your timely encouraging words which inspired me to achieve my goals! I wish you all the very best in your journey to personal excellence! In my book you are already there!

Jade · 01-22-2011 03:18 AM

Quote:The reason I llike to keep a slight incline is I'm afriad that when I try to run outside, where the terrain isn't perfectly flat, I won't be able to run as well, and get discouraged thinking I'm out of shape. This way I should always be able to at least run as well off the treadmill as on. I

This is totally true Tony - running outdoors is harder because of the road surface, inclines, weather conditions and of course air resistance (even if there is no wind there will always be air resistance because you are running forward not on the spot

) You are wise to be prepared for that! Running outside is also great though - you get the breeze to cool you and if you plan nice routes in the summer through scenic areas you can get high just from the beauty of your surroundings (as long as you dont kill yourself running too fast

) - take it easy - enjoy it - you will gain much more in the long run (haha what a great pun! :lol:

)

Quote:Thanks Jade for your continued advice and support!

It's been a pleasure Tony - I have really enjoyed our dialogues and reminding you of running stuff has reminded me too

I wish you total success in your plans and I'm sure that you have the tools to cope with any hiccups along the way - I hope I do too as there are sure to be some - only a boring unnatural road is straight and flat and completely smooth

tperez330 · 01-22-2011 09:32 AM

(01-22-2011 03:18 AM)Jade Wrote: It's been a pleasure Tony - I have really enjoyed our dialogues and reminding you of running stuff has reminded me too I wish you total success in your plans and I'm sure that you have the tools to cope with any hiccups along the way - I hope I do too as there are sure to be some - only a boring unnatural road is straight and flat and completely smooth

Likewise Jade! There will definately be hiccups, but that's part of life I guess. I don't know, boring unnatural can be nice sometimes where you're always dealing with the twists and turns!

Glenn · 01-22-2011 10:30 AM

Hi Tony, great to hear you've finished with a couple of A's!! :dance:

Well done!!

Just out of curiosity, what kind of tea have you been drinking mostly?

Jade · 01-22-2011 08:01 PM

Quote:Likewise Jade! There will definately be hiccups, but that's part of life I guess. I don't know, boring unnatural can be nice sometimes where you're always dealing with the twists and turns!

Yep I agree - I wasn't suggesting we should seek out the rough bits just there will always be some in life! We should enjoy the smooth bits and try to be prepared for the occasional rough bits, take them in our stride then back to the nice smooth road again - this analogy of life being like running a race or a route is actually quite a good one!

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tperez330 · 01-23-2011 01:03 AM

(01-22-2011 10:30 AM)Glenn Wrote: Hi Tony, great to hear you've finished with a couple of A's!! Well done!!

Just out of curiosity, what kind of tea have you been drinking mostly?

Thanks Glenn, 'preciate it! Typically green tea. There are hundreds of variations at your local health food shop. I have drinking a version called "dieter's green tea" which adds something to aid the digestion I believe. I can dig up the info and post it. I also drink peppermint tea, which is supposed to help ease appetite. I have found sipping hot tea throughout the day (I work in an office most times) really making a difference in my diet. I can go without breakfast and sometimes dinner if I have tea. My biggest problem in the past was binging at night after work, tea helps... oh and I do add a 1/2 tsp of raw honey. Very important because without it, the tea would be pretty nasty! :bleah:

Thanks again for your comments, best of luck on your goals! (Watch out for spiders!

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Glenn · 01-23-2011 01:28 AM

Hi Tony, I think I know the tea you're talking about I bought some at an asian grocery store many years back. Peppermint tea is nice too. My wife and I used to buy a LOT of different teas. Here's a photo of all our tea!! A bit out of control actually

There's more at the back of the bottom shelf. We mostly only drink it during the winter months though, and even then possibly only a few times a week.

The spiders are fine

You should see the big ones that come in the house.

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